Marina Esther – sneak preview 1×10
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Note:
[this sneak preview is a translation of BAM's "on the fly" transcript. It contains the crucial, but not necessarily all Marina/Esther relevant moments of this episode; there will most likely be additions and/or corrections later. - If you want to quote these translations elsewhere, you are welcome to do so, as long as you link back to this original post and credit the creators (i.e. BAM and Nordica)]
A Spanish version of these transcripts can usually be found at Sam’s blog, a Chinese version at the Chinese Marina/Esther forum (forward to last page), within 24 hours of the English post. Videos, thanks to AuntieCallisto , are embedded below.)
Scene 1
[Marina and Esther arrive at the hospital together in Marina's VW beetle]
E: But when that ghost girl came out of the fountain, I just wanted to die! I beg of you… no more horror movies! I’m begging you!
M: Uh… but I love it when you hold onto me because you’re afraid. I chose these films on purpose because of that!
[they share a kiss]
E: No… they’ll see us.
M: But who? Who is seeing us? There’s nobody there, it’s only dawning!
E: And what if somebody shows up?
M: You know that nobody is seeing us. – Fine, you go in first, I’ll follow you later, like this you’ll be more at ease.
E: Thank you.
M: You’re welcome.
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Scene 2
[Marina and Esther, walking down a corridor]
E: But at least the food form the vending machine, I get to pay?
M: And here I was getting annoyed with the last few dimes in my pocket… Esther, come on!
E. Marina… let me point something out to you [going through the pockets of Marina’s coat] You are walking around with a stuffed monkey and a stuffed crocodile in your pockets…
[they are interrupted by the arrival of patients who were involved in an accident]
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Scene 3
[Marina is treating a little girl; Esther enters and between them, they calm down the girl. The scene is mainly about Marina and Esther interacting with the girl; the mother of the girl is also present]
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Scene 4
[Marina and Laura are helping a young girl who collapsed (?) in the hospital bathroom and take care of her. Esther’s father arrives with would in his hand. Marina is doing the treatment.]
E: How many stitches did you give him?
M: Seven… but look [while she is taking care of the father] I stitched your father with ribbons (?) here.
Papa: The doctor is really good… I didn’t feel anything.
E: I did already tell you about Marina… didn’t I, Papa?
Papa: Of course.
E: Marina is our pediatrician… it’s just that today… all the doctors are busy and then they disappeared, so…
Papa: Esther speaks of you as of an exceptional person. And I have to say that she is right.
M: Well, thank you” But are you sure that she has told you really everything about me?
Papa: Well… that, I don’t know!
E: He thinks you’re an authentic marvel because you convinced me to leave Aldo… isn’t that true, Papa?
Papa: Absolutely!
M [to Esther’s father]: Well, so you and I are on the same page when it comes to Esther’s boyfriends?
Papa: Of course! A bunch of stupid jerks! Esther deserves better!
M: That’s exactly what I keep saying!
E: all riiight… you’re done, aren’t you?
M: Who knows… perhaps she has already found the right person?
Papa: Is that so? Esther?
E: But no, Papa! [Marina has trouble hiding her mirth] The doctor is making a mistake. – I. Am. Not. Seeing. Anyone!
[Marina makes a scissor/cutting gesture for Esther to see]
E: You want ME to change the topic?
M: No, I want the scissors.
Papa: Ah, I always have to be the last one who’ learning about things! What nonsense!
M: Oh, I know!
E: The doctor likes to jest. – I… and you know it… I am single!
M. Band-aid, please.
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Scene 5
[Esther and Marina are leaving the hospital together with Esther’s father]
M: Well, Mr. Cesare, please remember that you need to come back to get the stitches taken out.
Papa: Sure I will. It will be a pleasure, Doctor.
M. Thank you.
Papa: Goodbye, Teresa, and see you soon!
[at this point, Esther tells her father to wait for her in the car so she can accompany him home]
M: What a darling! You have a wonderful dad. You shouldn’t be lying to him.
E: No, really… I’d like for him to have his hand healed first before I’m going to give him a heart attack.
M: You have a point. But sooner or later he will find out about it.
E. Let’s hope he won’t! [and with that, she leaves, leaving Marina somewhat unhappy about her answer]
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Videos, with many thanks to AuntieCallisto:
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Preview for 1×11:
Merely a glimpse of our girls, but see for yourself! (thanks to mary_iena)
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This sneak preview has been made possible thanks to the Italian transcripts by BAM (you rock, girl!). Videos thanks to AuntieCallisto. Header screenshot made possible by the episode trailer uploaded by mary_iena. English translation: mine.
These translations/descriptions/sneak previews are just an Italian finger exercise of mine and try to cover the core scenes of Marina and Esther, which means that there may be video footage in the clips on YouTube that is not covered here. I do, however, try my best to include everything that is essential. There may be occasional glitches or mistakes – feel free to point them out in the comments.
Thank you both, Nordie and BAM, for the quick “on the fly” translation!!! Rushing to translate them into Spanish.
[first video scene in car, Marina is such a sweet darling]
…and on behalf of the Spanish community, thanks to YOU Sam, for pulling yet another night shift to bring Marina and Esther to the comunidad hispanohablante!
@Sam PD. Marina. Darling. y con un par – mira la escena con su suegro!
Hmmm… poor Marina
Again, a big THANK YOU to Anik, BAM and everyone else!
I feel sad for Marina, she deserve de best
And again, thanks so much all of you!
Yes-yes poor Marina of course but I can highly understand the situation and the trouble in Esther’s feelings. Anyway my father would also had a heart attack if I’d tell him
Anyway have you seen Teresa’s face in the background at the end of the last scene around 1:57… I guess something will come out of this suspicious looking.
I know, I feel bad for (and understand) Esther as well. But I was in Marina’s position once and it really sucks. I think, however, that she will be smart enough to allow Esther to do the lesbian processing and coming out to friends and family ordeal at her own pace. Oh, and my father would not have a heart attack. I think it would be more like his intestines would explode
Hm, yes… Teresa… heart attack or intestinal explosion? I’ve yet to decide.
Teresa? Definitely something that goes outward – she doesn’t strike me as the internalizing type. She may not dare to ask Esther directly, but I can see her grilling Rocco. (not sure whether Rocco’s dancing antics in the preview was a distraction tactic) And freaking out, at least at first.
But whether friends in Gossip Central or parents, many people eventually move past the heart attacks or messy explosions (my were parents were far from amused, either, but did come around after a few rather unpleasant years. – I also distinctly remember a Hungarian friend breaking off contact after I came out to her (perhaps she had a heart attack?), but that hasn’t interfered with my fondness for Hungarians at all
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Great work again ILA…
Somehow I can’t see Teresa working out as well as Hospital central’s gossip central, but then hopefully they aren’t going to shove Esther off a building either …!
@Persephone: It’s funny I was too in the situation of Marina’s and my “Esther” couldn’t cope with the situation (I mean towards to the other people) so I decided to leave. And that leads to–>
@Anik’s point. In Hungary people are EXTREMELY homophobic I’m not surprised at all that your friend reacted like this. And what Marina said…one person knows everybody knows which is sometimes good sometimes very very bad. Like a friend of a friend (a boy) was beat on the street because he looked (!) gay (actually he wasn’t). What if you’d walk with a woman holding each other’s hand…
Nova thanks for your comments! It’s something people over here in the UK forget so easily; the situation in large parts of the rest of the world (including many Eastern European countries) is appalling for our brothers and sisters. There has been quite a big debate in the gay community here in the UK that Gay Pride in London (today) has once again been a very un-political event… It’s such a shame that so many of us feel that just because here in the UK we have won a lot of rights and protection everything is ok. It quite clearly isn’t (especially in your part of the world).
We can only hope that eventually attitudes will change like they have here in the UK (I’m old enough to remember when holding hands with a woman was similarly “asking for trouble” here…). But of course in times of economic strife conservative attitudes tend to harden, so right now I guess the outlook is not that great
And how wonderful that nowadays we at least have channels like this to exchange ideas and messages of support!
Nova, do you think that the recent domestic partnership law will change anything in Hungary? Or is it more of a public segregation to cement the status quo?
Since I lost that Hungarian friend, I’ve been so out of touch that I simply can’t judge it.
On a bright note, though, at least this announcement for the upcoming Budapest Pride is more inspiring than anything I’ve seen this pride season so far (of course, if even in the capital there is so much left to fight for, us Western Europeans probably can’t even imagine what LGBT small-town life must be like. Fingers crossed for more inclusive and respectful times ahead!!)
Anik, sorry to hear that your Hungarian friend reacted so badly. I guess she didn’t realize that you were the same person that you were the several minutes before you told her. Also sorry about your parents’ initial reaction
My mother took it very well, but my father can never find out. Even if he survived the guaranteed intestinal explosion, he would never come around and would probably nag my mom to death, which is actually of more concern to me than anything else.
Purity mentioned Eastern European countries. I’m originally from Poland, but now live in the US, which is very fortunate for me, as people here (for the most part, at least) are quite tolerant. Living back home would leave me a little more than screwed, I think, as the country needs at least another 50 years to even start BECOMING open to the idea that we are people, too.
@Nova: I think a lot of people at some point are in Marina’s situation. My “Esther” and I still keep in touch and visit each other from time to time (she moved back to Europe). She actually has a boyfriend now, who in my opinion is not good enough for her (though in my opinion I wasn’t good enough for her, either), and looks happy, which makes me happy.
Well I saw the video and on the Hungarian lesbian site I also read the story of the shooting. When some skinheads saw the rainbow flagged bunch of people on Heroe’s Square (where they run at the end) they went towards them willing to beat them. In fact as they didn’t react one of the skinheads “only” spitted on one of the foreigner girls. Well, that’s behind… And as for the Pride, the extreme right party asked the suspended illegal right wing parties to come and make trouble during the Pride.
The domestic law wouldn’t change anything in my view as we still cannot adopt a child nor can raise (officially) the child of the other woman etc. As long as the people’s attitude won’t change it won’t have any relevant importance.
@Persephone: What’s funny, my “Esther” looked just the same as Marina (maybe that’s why I’m so fond of theis series? lol) But we haven’t speaken for almost a year. And the saddest that we could be together even nowadays if you wouldn’t have to keep this kind of relationship in such a secret.
@Nova: thanks for the reply. It’s interesting to see that legally, we seem to be in the same place – Germany may be seen as more advanced in LGBT rights, but this year, the same basic rights are dominating the Pride themes here: civil rights, like right to adopt and to raise children as a couple (out only exception is the stepchild adoption inside a registered civil union). I would add to that equality in front of the tax laws (‘married’ gays pay more than straight married couples), and inclusive assisted reproduction rights that do not excluded lesbian couples.
For all the “progress”, Germany, much like Hungary, has no gender-neutral marriage law, no adoption right for gay couples (technically, a gay single can adopt, but it rarely happens), no legal equality of the civil union (model: ’seperate, and definitely not equal’), no access to AR. And the party who will most likely win the elections this autumn has already declared that they will cement the status quo for 4 more years and reject LGBT-inclusive rights.
The biggest difference between our countries seems to be the attitude of the public, which over here, at least in the bigger cities and in the Northwest, is a lot more relaxed. Yesterday, Ngf and I walked around downtown for hours, and we held hands most of the time (with exceptions when walking past groups of angry and frustrated young men, mostly right-wing or with an assumed migration background) – it is a luxury that for us, is pretty normal. There are still stares or an occasional comment, but I see it as a task, too: the more couples walk around like we do, the more visibility there will be, which will hopefully lead to normalcy.
And after brunch, we’ll go out to the park, hand in hand like all the other couples, and smile at the parents and their toddlers playing on the greens or trying to learn to ride their little bicycles. And those kids will hopefully grow up to find gay couples completely normal, if they’ve seen them since the beginning, walking though the park and smiling back and feeding the ducks in the pond like everyone else.
The whole scene with Esther/Marina/Esther’s dad was awesome! Really funny, Esther was really nervous, but who can blame her? Her incredibly HOT girlfriend and her father talking about her ex boyfriends? Uncomforteble situation.
I’m also a little sad about ther preview. I know, that they should follow the Spanish storyline, but as we all know Italy is not as open-minded as Spain, and I’m a little worried that writers could have had this “awesome” idea of killing Marina/ Esther getting back wit Aldo. Please God, don’t let it be!
Hey Nova – regarding laws and attitudes… well all I can talk about is the experience here in the UK and obviously there are all sorts of other factors in other countries. I came out in the mid 80s and my impression is that the law has usually been ahead of, and lead, people’s attitudes. I mean there are plenty of places in the UK I still would not walk around comfortably, and the societal and legal position of my kids is still not the same as that of kids born in to a straight married couple, but things are hugely improved. I think the thing is that as laws change people learn to see difference as “less different”. For the younger generations things become somewhat normalised.
It’s fragile still, it wouldn’t take much to revert, but I agree with Anik’ the best we can do is try to be as out as we can in our normal lives. Help people become used to the sight and the idea of us. And use the law to lead wherever possible. And eventually, slowly, society evolves.
Some happier things for this evening:
http://www.rai.tv/mppopupvideo/0,,Fiction%5E0%5E108291,0.html
Like the backstage video on rai tv website Teresa is so cute showing around
But why does Barela say that noh to Ricchetti’s kiss gesture?
(Sorry if you’ve already mentioned this video in some older post I just discovered it now)
Thanks Nordie, BAM and AuntieCallisto for all the work you put in to it!
@Nova: Ah, then you must be right about where your real fondness for the show comes from
True, it’s hard to be in a relationship when you can’t be open about it.
As for Barela’s noh, I think it was more of a self-preservation tactic. Imagine if a photo like that (obviously not a scene kiss) leaked out to the Italian tabloids. Big chance of acting careers going down the drain. For both of them. She did kiss Rochetti in that very annoying Tatami interview, though I think that was an attempt to shut the hostess up. That woman Would. Not. Stop. Interrupting.
The video Nova mentioned was discussed and linked to early last autumn before TdU started airing.
I remember back then that I found the kiss/no kiss moment rare, but after seeing the sensationalism both actresses were subjected to at Tatami (also discussed here at length), I sympathize with Barela’s knee-jerk reaction of not wanting (that is my interpretation) to see her character and the storyline between Marina and Esther reduced to a sensationalist image (no, women usually do not simply kiss randomly with no emotional attachment!). In fact, among the little publicity done for TdU, exploiting the “hot women making out!” stereotype featured most prominently, and it’s a disservice to the storyline, and to the Italian LGBT community at large.
Personally, I continue to be happy surprised with how well the storyline is handled within the series, allowing them to be cute and in love in small gestures and not trying to insert making out sequences at will for the sake of getting more viewers of the dumb variety.
The biggest feat, in my opinion, is to portray Marina and Esther as a storyline people respond to emotionally, and not in a voyeuristic way.
“(no, women usually do not simply kiss randomly with no emotional attachment!)”
Anyway don’t take me always seriously neither did I think that they would kiss in the backstage video.
haha, that’s true
BTW what was that Tatami stuff which you told about??
@Nova: the Tatami video (Subtitled version available thanks to the work of rishi06 and AuntieCallisto) has been embedded and discussed here in the ATW editions.
Or maybe Alessia was just pleasantly surprised by Elisabetta’s spontaneous and playful sign of platonic affection (I mean did you see that beautiful smile right after Elisabetta puckered her lips at her?)? My friends and I give each other the occasional, innocent smooch